Program Recover Discussion focuses on Homeless in Pulaski
By WILLIAM PAINE
Patriot Publishing
The leadership of the Town of Pulaski met this week with county officials and members of several community organizations to discuss solutions for dealing with the relatively large homeless population in town.
About 50 individuals gathered at the former Fine Arts Center Annex on 4th Street for a meeting led by Pulaski Town Manager Todd Day. All members of the Town Council were present, as were numerous town employees including nearly every member of the Pulaski Police Department. Other groups represented at the meeting included the New River Valley Regional Commission, CarePortal, the City of Refuge, Taking it to the Streets, the NRV Housing Project, the Calfee Community Center and the Pulaski County Commonwealth’s Attorney’s Office.
“On a local level, we want to make this community a better place to be,” said Day, who began his presentation by citing national crime statistics and comparing them to local crime stats.
According to the FBI statistics that Day quoted, incidents of vandalism in the Town of Pulaski are more than twice the national average. Incidents of trespassing in town are six times the national average. Even more disturbing, reports of breaking and entering in town are 13 times higher than the national average for this crime.
“Wherever I go everybody says the same thing,” said Day. “Y’all have a problem there, and it’s absolutely the truth. The whole objective of this meeting is to introduce a program that we feel will work, but it’s going to take the cooperation from everybody.”
“There’s a clinic in this town that’s not making things better,” Day added. “Everybody I talk to say the methadone clinic is causing a lot of problems. It’s like a beacon. It brought people from all over the place. We’ve seen people from Boston, Knoxville, Texas, Georgia and Wichita, Kansas.”
Terrie Sternberg of the Pulaski County Ministerial Association responded to this by saying that the issue with homelessness could not be placed soley on the existence of the Pulaski Medical clinic, as the problem of addiction was more nuanced.
Day acknowledged that there are a variety of circumstances that could result in an individual becoming homeless and continually emphasized that the meeting was called to find a way to deal with these individuals, short of arresting them.
The Pulaski Town Council recently passed ordinances to limit loitering and camping by vagrants in town, but Day stated that police officers could use discretion based on the circumstances of each individual case.
“Two new ordinances were put into place because our constituents keep calling the PD,” said Day. “We plan to use those as a tool to help incentivize individuals to accept the help when we introduce those individuals to a helping hand. So, it’s up to the officer to make a decision. They may give 2,3,4, 5 warnings before arrest. I do not know of another method to get individuals the help they need when laws are being broken, other than take them to an individual organization. That’s what we’re here to introduce tonight.”
Many of those facing arrest for offenses like trespassing are coping with mental or drug addiction issues that, according to Day, are best handled by professional organizations.
“We want input that can help us put a program together,” said Day, while noting that many encounters occur after-hours, when local organizations that provide aid are closed.
Day then posed a question.
“Who can we call at 3:00 in the morning? We’d like to call some organization that is trained to address an individual that may need a helping hand, but the complication is that this happens at all hours of the night and I have no idea how to deal with it.”
“So, you’re looking for a touch point to serve someone that needs housing, someone that needs mental health services, someone that needs substance abuse services to find underlying causes for the crime that they’re committing,” stated Pulaski County Director of Prevention and Recovery Katie Thompson.
Pulaski County Administrator Jonathan Sweet suggested the police have a “cheat sheet” that would provide an appropriate phone number to call relating to issues pertaining to each individual.
“Our officers are trained to go out and speak with people who are experiencing a mental health crisis or dependency issues like Alzheimer’s,” said Pulaski Police Chief Samuel Shumate. “Most of our officers have had crisis intervention training and that helps. They do a really good job of diagnosing and we try to cut breaks where we can. Unfortunately, we’re not getting a lot of help. So, our options are jail or leave you out here on your own and whatever happens to you happens to you.”
Chief Shumate also stressed the importance of dealing with the individual at the time of the encounter, whenever that may be.
Sweet asked, “Will you transport these individuals where they want to go?”
“Yes, we absolutely are,” Day replied. “The idea for us is that the individual stick with the program, because I cannot keep telling the business or the landowner that I let that same individual keep coming back. We don’t want to use the new ordinances. We want to lend a helping hand, but we have to respond to crimes.”
Day also stated that two individuals have been hired by the Pulaski Police Department specifically to deal with the homeless population. Officer Michael Albert, who recently retired after 27 years in the Blacksburg Police Department, was hired as the police department’s new Community Resource Specialist.
“Police don’t want to arrest everyone they come in contact with,” said Albert. “In some cases, we can use an Emergency Custody Order, which is not an arrest but provides custodial detention to get that person looked at. It’s another tool in the toolbox.”
Thompson asked if the police department would keep track of the individuals who had been sent to an agency that provided assistance.
“Yes, officers will document encounters with individuals,” said Day. “So, the idea is to get the individual the help they need and remove them from being on the streets. We’ll take them back 2,3, 4 times, whatever it takes.”
Sternberg asked about the possibility of a permanent shelter for the unhoused.
“I’ve never denied a request for a warming shelter and we’re willing to transport,” Day responded. “We know there’s a number of facilities in the region, not in town obviously, but we’re willing to transport.”
Day added that two old schools in town were currently being transformed into housing units, which could help alleviate the housing shortage in the area.
“I’m very, very empathetic for people that don’t have a place to live,” said Town Councilman Joel Burchett Sr. “I know a lot of them. I’ve talked to them. I also have to keep in mind the taxpayers of the community and the neighborhood. I, in good conscience, could not support putting a shelter in a residential area, if the taxpayers don’t want it there. So, I keep that part in mind as well. The elephant in the room is the clinic.”
Several individuals representing local non-profits seemed enthusiastic about the possibility of taking a new approach to solve the issue of the homeless population in town and the crimes associated with them, but no solid commitments were made at Monday evening’s gathering.
“We’re willing to set up another meeting in the next couple of weeks,” said Day at meeting’s end. “This issue is it’s literally tearing Pulaski apart. And I mean, it’s literally eatin’ away at it.”
March 14, 2025 @ 12:34 am
This needs to be looked at for what it is..(TAKE A TRIP WITH ME) OK SAY THAT SOMETHING HAPPENS AND YOU FIND YOURSELF HOMELESS SLERPING YOU CAR…. now think you’ve lost your job and you have no family you’ve lost your home that’s the 1st to them they repo ur vehicle. now your total homeless you’ve only got the close on your back. now you e been sleeping where ever you find shelter with in 3 days ur clothes are DIRTY u want a job but how are you gonna look at the interview..you haven’t had a shower to make your self presentable you know u won’t be hired due to your appearance.all the bad stuff that’s happened has cause server depression that cannot be treated because no insurance or worse u have got a drug problem that if you go to the E.R. they will put you somewhere where u will be left to suffer from server withdrawal (WHICH SCARES A DRUG ADDICT TO DEATH) and is a nightmare…once people get this low there is a lot that effects the situation AND IF YOU DO GET A JOB how are you gonna get up and be on time without a alarm clock.and keep clean cloths or get to the job …(THIS IS THE WAY I IMAGINE THEIR MIND SET IS) WE’VE GOT TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES FIRST…to get homeless people back on their feet arrest and warnings THESE TACTICS ARE TRY TO CONTROL A PERSON WITH FEAR… IMAGINE YOUVE JUST GOT DELT THE WORSE HAND IN YOUR LIFE,AND NOW IF U CANT PULL IT TOGETHER AND FIX IT YOU WILL BE A CRIMINAL….THATS INHUMANE AND SHOULD BE A CRIME….I COULD UNDERSTAND IF A PERSON REFUSES TO RECEIVE HELP THATS DIFFERENT….but we need a program that will address these problems because these small steps are what is holding people in this situation back. If there place that gave people 30/60/90 day… but it needs to be made clear if your your not progressing threw the program they will be removed so that a person that really wants the changed. (I KNOW THIS TAKES FUNDS) the goal would be for this program to become self supporting and to have a person back on their feet in 30-60 days with a 30 day buffer if the person is working towards the main goal …we have enough old schools and buildings to get this rolling…..I think the community would donate BUT ITS GOT TO START SOMEWHERE
March 14, 2025 @ 6:33 am
sounds to me the clinic is the problem was we having this problem before the clinic if not some way do away with clinic
March 14, 2025 @ 7:45 am
The bottom line is personal accountability. Years of seeing the same bums (yes that’s the proper nomenclature in this scenario) walking the same streets with the same excuses. It gets old. There is a difference between a person out on their back sides due to hardship, this denotes a sense of regaining one’s position. Too many of these regulars in town do not have this. They don’t care, they don’t want to change. They’ve been given nearly every helping handout, every chance, every open door to walk through. ENOUGH! If they can walk and ask for a cigarette, they can work a job, clean themselves up, and hold themselves accountable to living a semi-reasonable existence. Make it clear, if you want this area to improve, if you want that 40,000 by 2030 (the right people not more trash), make it clear that being an addict or being a degenerate will not be tolerated in our community. Get rid of that damn clinic, replace it with a work camp. Give them a shovel and a vest and make them improve the surrounding place they crap on, they throw trash and needles on. The ones who need mental help, by all means get it for them, but hold them accountable! Enough of our tax money going to help people who don’t want to help themselves!
March 14, 2025 @ 9:30 am
What I’m gathering from this is….. I as an employed, tax payer and homeowner will go to jail if I commit these kinda crimes but if I am homeless or say I am, I’m offered help instead??? A crime is a crime regardless of income or housing situation. But yes they do need more offered services to help their situations. Drug use (addict) is not a disease, it is a choice when you start. It’s not like you can walk outside and catch “crack head”. Drug abuse is linked to mental illness which is a disease and that is where we need to start. Don’t just offer help for drug use, don’t give them that option, there needs to be a way to incarcerate addicts into a treatment center that focuses on mental illness and the underlying issues. But all the treatment centers in Virginia that I’ve looked into (cause I have a family member that is an addict) are religion based and the addict can check themselves out at any time??? How is that supposed to help anyone? Praying to whatever Jesus isn’t helping with their mental issues to want drugs to erase reality, neither is being weak and checking yourself out. We need more mental help places
March 14, 2025 @ 10:13 am
In my opinion the clinic in Pulaski and Dublin needs to be closed. We have reduced the Police Department to Taxi Drivers and our jail to a holding area. Let’s face the truth, Pulaski and Pulaski Co only have so much funds and by hiring more individuals in the Police department, wear and tear on Police cars being used as taxis and suppling shelter is a drain on tax payers money. Don’t get me wrong, if someone is down on their luck and needs a meal and shelter for a night or two is one thing, but as tax payers is not up to us to restore peoples lives. And the people come into Pulaski are not for the majority just passing through, they come and stay here because of the Methadone clinics. As far as the schools being converted to housing, what are the towns plans, let homeless live there for little or no rent? I would think not, that would be another drain on the taxpayers and town and county resources. Who is it that are making these crazy financial decisions?
March 14, 2025 @ 12:20 pm
Thankful for the discussions and possibilities of a solution. If we could possibly assign a social worker to individuals and hand them a card with a social workers name, phone and address with an appointment date/time (address in case they don’t have access to a phone) and have an emergency fund that would provide a physical assistant going with them into the VEC and applying for jobs, moving into a shelter, applying for emergency food stamps with the new shelter address and an outfit for interviews etc. They need someone to lead and guide them in the right direction. Now if we offer help with shelter, getting a job, etc. and they refuse or do not show up on that date and time…then move forward with a written warning or whatever. At least give them a fighting chance. Telling a homeless person to not be homeless or face being arrested will get them a night in jail and back on the street. I don’t feel that will be a good solution. Running them off from one area will push them into hiding in neighborhoods or other wooded areas. That also isn’t solving the isssue. We all want them off the streets for our safety and theirs and I am sure a lot of the homeless would love the chance to be a working self-sufficient citizen again with just a little help. We have ALL needed a little help of some kind or another in our lives.
March 14, 2025 @ 6:35 pm
I do not ever make a post and share my opinion, largely due to the fact that the majority of people either “Listen ( or read ) only to react “ instead of actually listening and trying to understand another’s point of view. Or people just reply with rude, disrespectful comments and that doesn’t get anyone anywhere.
I honestly would like for someone, Mr. Day or someone to explain and help me understand why the “SAME TOWN THAT ALLOWED THE VERY BUSINESS, THAT THEY ARE NOW CRITICIZING COME INTO AND JOIN THIS TOWN WHEN THERE WAS A TON OF OPPOSITION BY TAXPAYERS INCLUDING DOCTORS ETC. AND THEN SAY THAT, IT IS THE REASON FOR CRIME AND HOMELESSNESS.
The Crime
March 15, 2025 @ 3:19 pm
I understand the grief of what many folks have regarding the matter with the situation at hand. Coming from a larger city this is a common issue and although I recognize the issue and concern of my fellow Pulaski neighbors. What I would like to draw the attention to is the question of why the Lord is bringing this to our town? In the context of history of what we see in the Bible the Lord brings “remedial judgments” due to rebellion towards Him. Some of these “remedial judgments” could be in the form of increased crime, lack of integrity within leadership, storms and plagues. As a culture of people, we must recognize our rebellion towards a Holy God. We ALL have fallen through Adam’s sin in the Garden in which we have ALL have been affected by in OUR sinful nature- which is why “our choices & actions” prove it. When we look at God’s law in Exodus 20- we ALL are guilty, from the White House to the Street People. We also see in scripture that the Lord is patient, merciful and gracious to those who trust in Jesus Christ through repentance towards sin against Him and faith in Him alone- who suffered our due wrath of justice in which we all deserve (John 3:16-21). Perhaps the choices we make and the decisions that our leaders make are affecting us as a culture (even here in the little town of Pulaski, Va). Also, we read in the Bible that man was created to work. If a man refuses to work and provide for himself & family- consequences will come as well. Handouts will not help the homeless situation either- it will enable them or encourage them to continue in their rebellion. Any “Helps Ministry” without the True Gospel will not fix the problem either. Obviously, there are folks who are homeless and in bondage to drugs & sin- but within the context there may be folks needing and receptive of the True help that is needed just like there may be civilized people who work and live in homes within our society- but reject the Truth and continue in sin (there will be consequences). There is no escape from a Holy God. To conclude, the last I looked we still have Loitering Laws here in Virginia. Personally, I think it would be a good move to shut down the Welfare system & truly make it harder for folks to receive it- for there is much neglect & abuse in it. With the money saved- you can then give raises to local Law Enforcement Agencies & Sherrif’s Department’s giving them room to add to their forces as well- while they battle against the crime in our neighborhoods. These agencies have been commissioned to this task according to Romans chapter13 in the Bible. Again, just wanted to reiterate that Jesus is the answer to every sin/problem that we face within ourselves and each other. Love, your neighbor.
March 16, 2025 @ 4:26 am
Why always blame the clinic for every problem in this town? It has really saved a lot of lives including myself. It does work for some people!! It’s not the clinics fault people don’t wanna act right!! We need more people and programs to help people not hire more police that could care less about the homeless!!